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Chertoff Created Terror Pretexts for US Police State

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Patrick Briley
April 14, 2005

US Prosecutor Beth Wilkinson told Stephen Jones and Federal Judge Matsch during a pretrial hearing in Denver in November 1996, that the entire federal family had been warning of a possible attack on the OKC federal building complex (Murrah and court house across the street) around the time of the OKC bombing. Wilkinson told the court in the pretrial hearing that she believed the FBI had not written an FBI 302 report on the warning.

The transcript of this pretrial hearing has been publicly available since the beginning of 1997. I have attempted unsuccessfully for over eight years to get TV and print media to cover this transcript and the story of FBI, US Marshals and federal judges having forewarning. My unsuccessful attempts have most recently included going to Fox News who is doing a special for the OKC bombing to be aired around April 19, 2005, the tenth anniversary of the OKC bombing.

FOX News producers Mike Russo and Clayton Rawson have so far ignored my pleas to examine and investigate this evidence.

Wilkinson stated in the pretrial hearing that local law enforcement (FBI, US Marshals) and federal judges got the threat warnings relevant to the Murrah Federal building bombing in OKC on April 19, 1995.

The relevant portions of the hearing transcript are presented at the end of this article.

OKC federal judge Wayne Alley was warned by US Marshals of the possible attack and told his hometown newspaper, the Oregonian that Alley kept his grand children out of the day care center and stayed home after April 4, 1995 because of the warning. The head of the US Marshals, Eduardo Gonzales had issued a warning to all US Marshals in March 1995 due to a Fatwah issued in connection with the ongoing 1993 WTC bombing trials. The Gonzales warning memo this was reported in the Newark (NJ) Star Ledger. OKC had been the site of WTC bombing plot planning in December of 1991 according to a filmed documentary, “Jihad in America”, prepared by Steve Emerson and shown to Congress.

References to the US Marshals and Gonzales memo, the Star Ledger and Oregonian articles and judge Alley are also mentioned in the transcript presented below.

According to former Murrah Day Care Center Director, Danielle Hunt, and her husband, Tom E. Hunt, the FBI had 3-4 FBI agents at the Murrah Building at 9 am sharp EVERY DAY. Mrs. Hunt and her husband have wondered if McVeigh had timed the bombing for the arrival of the FBI since the truck bomb went of 2 minutes after the FBI normally arrived at Murrah. The Hunts also have said that these FBI agents often dropped off children at the day care center even though the FBI offices in OKC at the time were in a location 7-8 miles away, at 50 Penn Place.

The reason that the FBI did not have FBI agents in the Murrah building on April 19, 1995 at the time, 9:02 am, of the OKC bombing is because they were warned to stay out of the Murrah building due to the threat warnings issued by Gonzales to the Marshals, federal judges, and the FBI described and admitted to by US prosecutor Beth Wilkinson in the hearing with judge Matsch and Stephen Jones.

The fact that the FBI got the warning and took it seriously is confirmed by the following account:

FBI agent wives Dee Vogel and Christy Hersley told their coworker, MY WIFE, at 9:30 am on April 19, 1995, that the FBI had expected an attack in OKC on April 19, 1995 and that the FBI had told FBI agents not to go into the Murrah building on April 19, 1995. The Hunts have said, consistent with the statements by the FBI agent wives, that to their knowledge, no FBI agents did in fact go into the Murrah building on April 19, 1995 even though every other day except April 19, 1995, 3-4 FBI agents were in Murrah by 9 am, the time of the bombing (9:02 am). Christy and Dee were the wives of OKC FBI agents Jon Hersley (senior case agent on OKC case) and Dan Vogel, respectively.

These wives of the FBI agents covered up their telling my wife about the FBI forewarning of an attack on the Murrah building according to this account:

In 2002 my wife was told by Marsha Norman, the wife of former Governor Frank Keating’s bodyguard (an OK state highway patrol trooper), that Dee and Christy lied to the FBI about what the wives had told my wife the morning of April 19, 1995 in order to protect their husbands FBI careers. Dan Vogel’s attorney David Schippers confirmed the story of the bodyguard’s wife to me personally in 2003. The bodyguard’s wife was a friend of Dee and Christy and my wife for many years and worked with them all at the time of the OKC bombing.

FBI agent James Carlisle made threats to me (with our children present in their rooms) in 1996 at our family home pertaining to the FBI agent wives Dee Vogel and Christy Hersley having told my wife of FBI forewarning.

Christy Hersley called my wife into Christy Hersely’s office and threatened her with loss of employment in 1998 at the time it was published that Jon Hersley was to testify at the OKC County Grand Jury investigating the OKC bombing. On the Friday after the bombing on April 21, 1995, Mrs. Hersley also took my wife aside and told my wife to forget about what Christy and Dee had told my wife on the morning of the bombing. Christy further stated (but lied) to my wife that she had been incorrect and that FBI agents did not go to the Murrah building and that FBI agents had not been warned to go there on April 19, 1995. FBI SAC Bob Ricks had just named Christy Hersley’s husband, Jon, the senior case agent for the OKC bombing case when Christy talked to my wife again on April 21, 1995.

We knew that Christy Hersley was lying when the Tom and Danielle Hunt confirmed to me that 3-4 FBI agents were at the Murrah building at 9 am sharp everyday. And when we read of the US Marshals warning to federal law enforcement (FBI) and judges in OKC attested to by US prosecutor Beth Wilkinson before judge Matsch, there was no doubt that Hersley was lying and covering up.

The final proof came when Marsha Norman told my wife and me that Dee and Christy had lied to the FBI about what they told my wife at 9:30 am on April 19, 1995.

There are several other major and important examples of federal forewarning of the OKC bombing associated with a white supremacist compound in far Eastern Oklahoma named Elohim City.

The BATF had an informant at Elohim City named Carol Howe. Angela Finlay Graham, Carol Howe's BATF handler at Elohim City, reported that McVeigh called the FBI informant Rev Millar on April 5, 1995 after inquiring about Ryder truck rentals. See this memo by Graham here.

The FBI had FBI informants at Elohim City who knew and worked with McVeigh including Andreas Strassmeyer, Peter Ward, Ward's brother, and Rev Millar. The special agent in charge of the OKC FBI office, Bob Ricks, met with his BATF counterpart Mr. Roberts to stop a BATF raid at Elohim City in March 1995.

Here is another example of federal forewarning and foreknowledge:

Two OKC deputy sheriffs, Don Hammons and Dave Kochendorfer told the OKC press in December 1997 and the OKC County grand jury in 1998 about the statements to them on the night of the OKC bombing by OK Republican Congressman Ernest Istook.

Istook had told them the FBI and Istook had been warned of a specific threat of an attack on the OKC Federal building complex by a local Muslim extremist group. Istook later publicly denied the allegations. But the Pentagon terror advisor, Jesse Clear, has a tape recording of a man he believed to be Istook describing a failed federal sting operation to an OKC bombing eyewitness. The advisor made a transcript of the tape and also played the tape in Istook's DC office for Istook's staff. The tape and transcript is available.

The tape has been analyzed by a court accredited voice forensic analysis expert.

The Chairman of the House Task Force on Terrorism and Unconventional Warfare, New Jersey Republican James Saxton, received a series of warning memos starting in March 1995 from his staff directors Youseff Bodansky and Vaughn Forest. The memos warned of Middle Eastern terrorist attacks against federal buildings in the American heartland that specifically included the Murrah building in OKC. The memos mentioned that the Middle Eastern terrorists planned to use two “lily whites” to help carry out the attack.

It is clear that the warnings to federal law enforcement of the OKC bombing were serious and taken seriously by federal law enforcement and a number Republican Congressmen including Saxton and Istook. The evidence clearly shows that federal law enforcement warned themselves and judges but did not warn the public, especially those who put their children in the Murrah building day care center or went to the Social Security office in the Murrah building. There were 12 children killed in the day care center and at least ten other children in the center were seriously maimed and injured.

Court Transcript

November 14, 1997 Hearing Re: McVeigh's Motion to Compel Production of Exculpatory Evidence


Criminal Action No. 96-CR-68



MR. JONES: No. 131, production of the memorandum warning identified in the New Jersey Star Ledger. The Government's response was it will submit in camera, and I don't know whether they have done that or not. That is one that is still to be resolved.

MS. WILKINSON: Your Honor, we need to discuss that, I believe. I, I think, disclosed the basic material that's in that threat; that it was specific to the conviction of the sheik in New York and the other his co-conspirators and that any information tending to indicate there was any threat said Washington, D.C., could be the – would be the target.

THE COURT: Well, is this a marshal service communication that was sent to like chief judges? Or, is this something different?

MS. WILKINSON: It's addressed -- can I get my copy?

THE COURT: You may. I don't think you've submitted it in camera.

MS. WILKINSON: No, I haven't.

THE COURT: Maybe we won't have to.

MS. WILKINSON: It is addressed to all the marshals across the country, your Honor, and it says at the bottom, This information should not be disclosed outside the marshal service and the court family. I believe that's their normal warning where it goes down through the marshal's service to the chief judge. Obviously, you're in a better position to know whether that's the procedure than I am, but --

THE COURT: Sometimes chief judges are in the court family. I --

MS. WILKINSON: It's my understanding that's how it works and that, often, it is also disseminated to local law enforcement, as I said yesterday.

MR. JONES: Well, your Honor, we asked for production of that under protective order to the defense. That memorandum was sent out within 30 days before the Oklahoma City bombing. It describes a threat to federal property. Talks about --

THE COURT: Well, why don't you go ahead with your plan to submit it to me and I'll decide it.


MR. JONES: That's fair.

MR. JONES: 139, evidence of prior warning referenced in the Oregonian - - that's been resolved by the Government's announcement of the submission for 131 and the two letters concerning threats which previously have been furnished. The Government represents that's all it has.

MS. WILKINSON: Excuse me, your Honor, just to correct that. To be clear, we have made those two disclosures of threats, but we continue to review our files and obviously, if we discover other threats or new information comes, we'll continue to disclose that. I just wanted to make that clear that we're continuing with our obligations.

THE COURT: All right.

MR. JONES: One thing we do not have is a 302 of any interview with Judge Alley so I assume there wasn't one.

THE COURT: You don't have a 302?

MR. JONES: Correct.


MR. JONES: I don't know that he was interviewed.

THE COURT: Was the judge interviewed by an FBI agent and a 302 produced?

MS. WILKINSON: I don't know, your Honor. I have to go back to the index. I assume Mr. Jones has looked at the index, and if he says he didn't receive the --

THE COURT: This is all about something that appeared in a newspaper?

MS. WILKINSON: Yes, Judge. What it is, it's the same story, I believe, as I told you this threat was -- the threat warning from the marshal service on March 15 was given to the -- the court family; and I believe after the bombing, Judge Alley made mention of the fact that he had received a general warning, you know, prior to the bombing.

MR. JONES: Well, I don't know that they are the same.

THE COURT: I see. But I mean, this is generated by the fact that there was some -- something in this newspaper in Oregon?

MR. JONES: He was interviewed by the Oregonian on the day of the bombing. He grew up in Oregon, and they called him because of the connection.


MS. WILKINSON: Your Honor, could I ask if Mr. Jones has interviewed Judge Alley?

THE COURT: Do you want to answer that, Mr. Jones?

MR. JONES: Well, if you'll consult your index of people I've interviewed, no, I haven't interviewed Judge Alley. He's interviewed me on a few occasions. 173 and 174 --

THE COURT: Well, have we left that open here? I'm not sure what the resolution of this has been. You don't have an interview report of anybody interviewing Judge Alley about this public statement? Is that the response?

MS. WILKINSON: I don't believe we do, your Honor, but I'd have to go back and check our index. As I said, we're working from the same index that we provided to Mr. Jones.

THE COURT: Yeah. Yeah. And I'm sure Judge Alley is equally available to the defense counsel as he is to the Government's counsel.

MS. WILKINSON: That was my point.

THE COURT: Yes. Well, I'll make it explicitly for you.

MS. WILKINSON: Thank you.

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Patrick Briley is a Navy Viet Nam era veteran who served on a Polaris ballistic missile nuclear submarine patrol in the Pacific." My Polaris submarine patrol in the Pacific was in far East Asia near China but I can not elaborate any more than that other than to say it was a very special, historically significant and exceptionally dangerous.

Briley was chosen to work under Admiral Rickover at Naval Reactors. He volunteered for Naval service from 1968 to 1976 during the Viet Nam era including being in Naval ROTC, a batallion commander of my ROTC unit and a Midshipman on board the ballistic missile submarine, SSBN 624, the Woodrow Wilson, as well as serving at Naval Reactors in DC for Admiral Rickover.

Patrick started research and investigation into terrorist attacks after the Oklahoma City bombing. Pat submitted his findings concerning the OKC bombing and the 9-11 attacks in briefings to high-level staff for the Senate Judiciary and Senate and House Intelligence committees, House Speaker Dennis Hastert, and the 9-11 Commission.










There are several other major and important examples of federal forewarning of the OKC bombing associated with a white supremacist compound in far Eastern Oklahoma named Elohim City.