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Chertoff Created Terror Pretexts for US Police State

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PART 2 of 4


By Patrick Briley
April 19, 2008

Role of Bank Robbers With McVeigh

Mark Thomas was convicted at a federal trial in 1997 for receiving stolen monies from Scott Stedeford, Kevin McCarthy, Peter Langan, Richard Guthrie, and Shawn Kenney. These men had conducted Midwest bank robberies and had, like Thomas and his two sons, stayed for extended periods at Elohim City in Oklahoma before the OKC bombing. The men were also members of the same groups Mark Thomas was very closely associated with, the Aryan Republican Army (Aryan Nations) and Christian Identity (misnomer). Several FBI documents and court records reveal these men also visited with Thomas numerous times at his residence in Macungie, Pennsylvania during the time period they had robbed banks before and after the OKC bombing.

A June 17, 1996 FBI FD-302 report indicates that McCarthy told the FBI that McCarthy and Stedeford were staying at the residence of FBI and CIA informant and provocateur, Andreas Strassmeir (a German national), in Elohim City in early April 1995 until April 16, 1995 when they left Elohim City. This was the same time that Mark Thomas and his sons also left Elohim City for Philadelphia. The August 21, 1996 FBI FD-302 report from the FBI Director to the FBI’s Philadelphia field office also indicates that McCarthy and Stedeford left the Strassmeir residence at Elohim City on 4/16/1995.

Stedeford and McCarthy went to Pittsburgh, Kansas to join Guthrie and Langan but did not arrive until 1 am on April 20, 1995 according to an affidavit by Peter Langan for attorney Jesse Trentadue. It is known from other FBI reports and teletypes that Stedeford and McCarthy arrived back in Pennsylvania and went to Mark Thomas’ farm at Mcaungie around May 1, 1995 or later.

The June 17 and August 21, 1996 FBI reports do not say if Guthrie and Langan may have also been in OKC on the morning of the bombing on April 19,1995 even if they were in Pittsburgh, Kansas later in the day on April 19, 1995. The whereabouts of McCarthy and Stedeford between April 16, 1995 and April 20, 1995 have not been adequately accounted for either and they also may have been in OKC on April 19, 1995 if not earlier.

Another FBI FD-302 report also states that Stedeford and McCarthy purchased a white Suburban on the Oklahoma Arkansas border or line on April 14, 1995. Langan, in his affidavit to Trentadue, stated that when Stedeford and McCarthy arrived at Pittsburgh Kansas on April 20, 1995 in their newly acquired white Suburban, the vehicle had no license plates. During his 1997 trial, Thomas stated Richard Guthrie told him that Kevin McCarthy "took out the Murrah Building."

Today, Thomas, Stedeford and McCarthy are out of federal prison. Thomas was released from prison on January 16, 2004 and is now a protected federal witness. In his 2006 report on the OKC Bombing, Congressman Rohrabacher also complained of the lack of cooperation of the Bureau of Prisons, the FBI and DOJ in locating and interviewing Kevin McCarthy about what he might know about the involvement of the Midwest bank robbers and ARA members and himself in the OKC bombing.

Shawn Kenney became a federal witness, was not prosecuted and is serving in the US Army.

Langan is serving life in prison for his role in the robberies.

Guthrie was found hanged in prison in 1996 while awaiting trial. Guthrie wrote a 300-page manuscript about the Midwest bank robbers while in prison entitled “The Taunting Bandits”, which may contain clues of the ARA, Midwest bank robbers and Mark Thomas’ possible involvement in the OKC bombing. Indiana State criminology professor Mark S. Hamm in his book In Bad Company: America’s Terrorist Underground states that an FBI agent gave Hamm a copy of Guthrie’s manuscript.

Eyewitness accounts indicate that Guthrie and Langan may have been in OKC helping McVeigh on the morning of the OKC bombing. A banker Kyle Hunt saw a man with long hair and resembling Langan in McVeigh’s yellow Mercury at 8:30 am on April 19, 1995 following the Ryder bomb truck. A pressman at the Journal Record building saw McVeigh driving his yellow Mercury with a longhaired passenger who could have been Langan down an ally just a few minutes before the bombing. There were numerous reports of a Hispanic or American Indian man accompanying McVeigh in OKC not only on the day of the bombing but also about two weeks before inside the Murah Building. The Veteran Affairs officer Paul Heath has told the press about his visit inside the Murrah Building with McVeigh, Michael Fortier and a man who looked Hispanic or an American Indian with long dark hair. Peter Langan named himself “Commander Pedro Gomez” because he is a longhaired man who was easily mistaken as a Hispanic and an American Indian.

Richard Guthrie owned an old 1976 tan Chevy truck (purchased in Phoenix in February 1995) closely resembling one that was seen at Nichols residence in Herington, Kansas on April 1, 1995. Witnesses reported seeing an old tan truck driving immediately in front of McVeigh and his yellow Mercury down I-35 after the bombing when OK Highway patrol trooper Charles hanger pulled McVeigh over. An old tan Chevy truck was seen with McVeigh at a Total gas station less than a mile from the bombing on the night before and the morning of the OKC bombing. Witnesses who worked at the gas station say that a longhaired man looking like an American Indian (resembling Langan) came into the gas station for a week up until the time of the bombing. FBI agents confiscated the surveillance camera at the gas station. KTOK radio newsman Jerry Bohnen, called the FBI the week of the bombing to investigate the Total gas station after Bohnen claims he got a call from a man named “Richard” (Richard Guthrie?) who had been at the gas station with McVeigh. The gas station personnel described a man who came into the station with McVeigh to get beer.

Eyewitness accounts place Shawn Kenney in OKC near the bombed Murrah Building with McVeigh’s yellow Mercury Marquis on April 18, 1995. FBI agents repeatedly interrogated and browbeat the witnesses who had seen Kenney in OKC, tried to get them to change their stories, took few notes, and wrote no FBI reports. This FBI conduct and sighting was reported to the AG of DOJ John Ashcroft in August 2001 in a letter from one of the witnesses delivered to Ashcroft at his Virginia residence in person by a US Air Force General.

A Cincinnati undercover police officer, Matthew Moning, stated in an affidavit to SLC attorney Jesse Trentadue, that a Secret Service agent Moning had worked with, Larry Haas, told Moning that monies from these Midwest bank robberies had been used to fund the OKC bombing. Larry Haas had used Peter Langan as an informant in an effort to capture Richard Guthrie for previous robberies and for a threat Richard Guthrie had made to kill President Clinton. Later, when Langan became a bank robber, Haas then used fellow robber Shawn Kenney as an informant to help authorities capture Guthrie and Langan.

Besides Moning’s quote of Larry Haas, there is additional evidence McVeigh received monies from the above described Midwest bank robberies, helped plan some of them and may have been a participant.

In a letter November 7, 1994 McVeigh wrote to his sister that McVeigh participated in planning bank robberies and gave her $100 bills he said were from the robberies. Terry Nichols wife, Lana Padilla, wrote in her book, “Blood Betrayed”, that she believed McVeigh and Nichols were involved in bank robberies.

Federal inmate Paul Hammer in an affidavit to Jesse Trentadue says that while in prison together McVeigh told Hammer that McVeigh robbed banks with Guthrie and members of the Midwest bank robbery gang tied to Mark Thomas, McCarthy, Stedeford, Langan and Kenney. Dennis Mahon has told investigators McVeigh was used to help plan some of the Midwest bank robberies because of McVeigh’s previous experience as an armored car driver. Dennis Mahon was a member of the KKK who lived at Elohim City and, as a member of the Aryan Republican Army, knew Thomas, Guthrie, Strassmeir, Langan and McVeigh. Other investigators claim that McVeigh once bragged that he was an excellent “wheelman” or get away car driver for the bank robbers.

Senior FBI OKC bombing case agent Jon Hersely testified to judge Stephen Taylor at the Oklahoma state trial for Terry Nichols. Hersely claimed that the FBI found no connections between the OKC bombing and the Midwest bank robbers or white supremacists who had stayed at Elohim City. Judge Taylor relied on Hersely’s testimony to disallow Nichols’ defense to introduce evidence of the white supremacist and bank robber ties at Elohim City to the OKC bombing. The latest FBI documents released to Jesse Trentadue now seriously call into question the testimony of Jon Hersely.

Former OKCBOMB Task force inspector Danny Defenbaugh and assistant Deputy Director of the FBI, Danny Coulson called in 2006 and 2007 for additional investigations into the domestic terrorist involvement in the OKC bombing. Today based on the information in the FBI documents released in early 2008, Defenbaugh and Coulson, if they are sincere should want further investigation that much more especially into Mark Thomas and how the FBI’s OKC (Jon Hersely in particular), DC (Louis Freeh) and Philadelphia offices handled the information on Thomas.

Further investigation into the OKC bombing will require a Special Prosecutor, formal Congressional hearings and a federal grand jury to overcome the lack of cooperation of the DOJ, Bureau of Prisons and FBI in the case. For part three click below.

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Patrick Briley is a Navy Viet Nam era veteran who served on a Polaris ballistic missile nuclear submarine patrol in the Pacific. His Polaris submarine patrol in far East Asia near China was historically significant and exceptionally dangerous.

His Naval service was from 1968 to 1976 during the Viet Nam era. He was a battalion commander of his Naval ROTC unit and a Midshipman on board the ballistic missile submarine, SSBN 624, the Woodrow Wilson. He was chosen to serve under Admiral Rickover as a project engineer at Naval Reactors near Washington DC. Patrick Briley started research and investigation into terrorist attacks after the Oklahoma City bombing.

Patrick submitted his findings concerning the OKC bombing and the 9-11 attacks in briefings to high-level staff for the Senate Judiciary and Senate and House Intelligence committees, House Speaker Dennis Hastert, and the 9-11 Commission.













Unfortunately, with a few exceptions, these same domestic terrorists are now out of prison, are not known to have disavowed their terrorist beliefs and are in a position to make another terror attack in the US with the help of the extremist domestic and Islamic individuals...